A Conversation with Danica de la Ray Jones

Danica De La Rey Jones is a magnetic force in the South African film industry. With over a decade of industry experience, Danica has built a career defined by high-stakes performances and an unflinching emotional range. Her transition from arthouse darling to commercial powerhouse was cemented with her lead role in the action feature Hunting Jessica Brok. Performing her own gruelling fight choreography with only two weeks of prep, Danica proved herself as a high-octane physical performer. She is currently starring as “Tessa” in the South African premiere of Suzie Miller’s internationally acclaimed one-woman play, Prima Facie.

So many different people and things, but I naturally had a knack for it from very young. I’d set up my dolls and teddy bears, and my mum and dad would get yanked into it too. I just always had something to say and wanted to perform. They were very encouraging. They always gave me an audience. I remember watching Annie for the first time at the Playhouse Theatre. I think I must have been seven or eight years old. I had watched Annie before. It was a favorite film in our household with my cousins who knew all the songs, we would jump on the couches and we’d all be assigned a character and pretend. I remember watching it at the theatre, and I couldn’t believe it. This Annie was different. Her skin color was different, she wasn’t the Annie I was used to seeing, but she was Annie. I could not believe she was right in front of me. It felt magical. I felt connected to her. I felt part of that world. I couldn’t believe that as she was experiencing things, I could see them. I could see what she was seeing, and I just remember thinking, “Is that really Annie?” And my mom was like, “Well, no, not really. It’s an actress.” And I was like, “What is that? What does that mean?” I think that was the first time I was like, “Wow, this is actually something.” I don’t think I even understood it fully then. I think that was the first time I was exposed to acting and heard the word actress and the theater. It just it was mind blowing.

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My mom, very early on, picked up that I love drawing and I love writing. I would just write poems about how I felt. I was a very emo kid. My mom and dad were going through a divorce and that was when I think my artistic side just went to a new level of expression, firstly, because I used to act like I was sick to get out of school, because I really didn’t want to explain how I felt. But I also wrote a lot and I drew a lot. My mom is a teacher and very early on, she saw that artistic part of me and nurtured it and supported it. I’m from Pietermaritzburg. You can join a little dance school and you try, but she was a single parent and so I didn’t really get a lot of exposure to the arts like I wish I had. I had my little home with my mom buying us paint and all my teddybears, and mom sitting watching me become Britney Spears every weekend. That felt like enough. My mom really held that very preciously and she never once said, “Don’t. No. You can’t do that. You need to go in this direction.” She was very much like, “I think this is you. So I’ll hold that for you, with you.” She was at every show, every late night thing. She held it like a precious part of me, even when I didn’t want to hold it sometimes.

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I actually did sign up and got accepted into DUT and I was there for a term. But in first year, my life just… I made so many bad decisions. I became a statistic. That’s all I’ll say about that. And I left and I remember Debbie [Lutge] who was the head of the Drama Department, sat me down and she was like, “I promise you this is your calling. It will change your life. I know it feels painful. I know you feel like you can’t go on but just stay.” And I was like, “Nope, I’m out.” It’s not that I opted for life experience, but man, I ran into life, set myself on fire and I learned a lot. I got hurt along the way. And then, when I had to meet acting again, it was in the strangest way. A friend of mine who is also a spectacular theatremaker, Menzi Mkhwane, he was a good friend of mine in school. He got the theatre award for theory and I got it for practical in high school. I remember I was going to my job where I was a PA. I was getting paid R3000 a month. I had a two year old. I was standing in Pietermaritzburg at a stop sign and it looked like it was going to rain and I was like this feels like a film honestly, and in my mind I’m like, “God, please just send me a sign.” I just started crying right there in the middle of town in Pietermaritzburg and my friend Menzi was catching a taxi to Durban to go do a gig and he was like, “Buddy, why are you standing in front of a stop sign crying?” And I was like, “Because it feels ironic and it just feels really fated for this moment.” He was like, “I’m writing a play and there’s a role for you. But keep doing what you do. Don’t give up.” He was with me in Courtyard when all of that stuff was going down and I left and he stayed and he went on to do great things. I went to work that day and the call didn’t come and I thought, “Well, perfect.” Two years later, the call came and he said, “I finished the play and there’s a role for you.” At that time I was staying in Durban. My life had shifted slightly. And he said, “Read the play and tell me which character you think you need to play. I said, “Kivu, because she’s feisty and passionate and angry and I think I am all of those things.” He was like, “You’re none of those things. You are gonna play Naomi. She holds the stage in stillness and I think you don’t see yourself. But trust me.” We read it, and again I had this choice to make. I came to a fork in the road again. It was our final dress rehearsal for the play and I got a phone call that my uncle, who was like my father figure, everything to me, my best friend, had committed suicide. I was going to go on stage the next day and I remember thinking I’m really not meant to do this. Every time I act, something really terrible happens. I remember Menzi telling me, “Buddy, you don’t have to do this. I can do the role. I wrote it. I’ll be Naomi. I’ll change the name.” I just had this feeling that came over me, like this calmness, and I was just like, “I have to do it. I don’t know why, but I have to do it.” The funny thing about Naomi, her role was that she needed to connect the real world to the spiritual world and her role as an oracle was to guide the fallen people to their resting place. You cannot make it up. I remember doing that final dress rehearsal, and I got to a point and I could not stop crying, and the Playhouse Theatre people were watching and then Menzi explained to them afterwards and they were like, “We’ve never seen such resilience on the stage before. Never in all our years. Someone’s standing there, doing everything that they can, fighting on that stage for that moment.” Then it was opening night and at the end of it all I won a Durban Theater Award for Best Supporting Actress. I never ever felt like it was mine. It always feels like it is so out of reach, even if someone gives it to me. I always feel like I’m chasing it somehow. That’s what I mean about life, like it’s not me and it is, but every time I try to hide from it, it finds me. Even in this role, I me.

I was about to give up acting. Again. It’s like every second Tuesday. And then this brief lands in my email and I read it, and I felt like I had nothing left in me. I had done a role that traumatized me more than I thought it would, and I had to deal with what that meant for me. I kind of got a bit shattered by what it means to do something traumatic and have it played back to you and not realize what it meant in the moment. It’s hard. I think that’s why I don’t watch my own work. I think that’s why I kind of like theater, then I can leave and I don’t have to think about it being played back to me in some way. It feels more like it’s just for that moment and what happened in that moment is real and true and whatever it meant in that moment. The brief was there and again, I felt that feeling and I was like, “No, I can’t, I don’t have anything left.” I was shooting something in Cape Town. I go back to Joburg, I learn the lines and it was like I knew what the character was going to say next. I never perform anything for my husband, I just run lines with him and then I go in and audition, but this time, I actually just showed him and he burst into tears and he was like, “I think you’re meant to do it.” I get in to the audition room, I’m a screen actor- you go in, introduce yourself, you do the thing and they’re like, “We’ll be in touch,” and then they don’t. You can walk out there crying, and you gave your heart and soul in that audition room and no one cares. And [in this audition] they were like, come and sit down, tell us more about yourself. I thought that was the end of it. They’re just kind, lovely people. Then I got a callback and I saw who was on the callback list and I was like, “Well, I’m definitely not getting this.” I just thought to myself, there is no way. So I just went in there and I was like for the moment, I am gonna live in the truth of what the story means for me. There is nothing at stake here. Just the truth to live in this moment for one last time and leave it there and move on. And it feels cathartic. Then they called me and told me that I got it and I was like, “You’re lying.” I sat in that for a while and now I’m doing it.

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Yes. 

It feels like you wanna run away before you get onto stage. You’re in two minds. It’s almost like the character’s pulling you but then your natural reaction, your heart is beating out of your chest and you feel like you’re being torn into two parts, like you could just run away and this whole thing would just like settle. But there is this assignment to the story, and so you feel like you’re being split into two until you hear, “Welcome to the Baxter Theatre.” And then you’re like, well, now there’s no time. Then I hear that first [sound cue] and immediately Tessa is there and I’m holding her and she’s holding me and I feel like we walk on to stage together. I walk her to the door and she’s like, “I’ve got this” and she takes over. That’s how it feels. It’s like me fighting with her like, “I can’t do this” and she’s like, “You’re not supposed to. It’s me. I’m gonna do it.” The hardest parts of the play for me, that Neil [Coppen] battled with me with, was was being so strong in the beginning. That for me was hard. Being real is okay. I don’t feel like my natural self. I’m very quirky and Neil was like, “I need you to walk on there like you own it.” And I’m like, “I don’t know what that means.” And then, my first preview something happened where I felt Tessa more prominently in me than I’d ever felt her before. She just walked out there. My first preview was only the third time that I’d run the play through fully. So I was like, “I don’t know Im going to do this. But allegedly, I can do hard things. So let’s test the theory.” It was difficult, and then my second preview, I dried up on stage in the second monologue. I completely lost a line and had no idea what to do in that moment. So I got up, walked off stage, and Tessa was like, “Absolutely not.” It took me all of five seconds. I walked back on stage and I finished the play. And the people who stood up and screamed and cried at the end of that performance, I was shocked because I felt like I had disappointed them. And they were like, “We’ve never seen an actor just like decide to run off and then come back on and be like no, I’m finishing the show.” It was insane. The psychology is: I want to run away. And then you have to constantly meet it every day and say, I am choosing because I am assigned to tell the story. Someone needs to hear this story. It’s bigger than me. And I know once I say “Thoroughbreds”, I’m safe.

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Jodie Comer’s one is one hour, forty minutes. But what she does is, the lights don’t go down. She just goes. She literally goes from “Thoroughbreds. Today I was a winner. Today I came first.” It’s like a beat and then she goes into the next monologue and into the next. So there’s no breath, no process, no music in that moment. She’s moving everything around in process and just hammering it through. Whereas Neil was like, the audience needs to process. You need a moment to just move things, go back, step into the next moment. Every moment deserves its moment. That’s what I think has made it longer. We’re not going in one after the next. I think that’s what it is, but we didn’t change much at all, except for localizing it a bit, removing the jury. I think there’s one line that we had to cut out because there’s no jury in South Africa but everything has pretty much being kept the same to the point where I think people even said, “But you wouldn’t sit in a witness room. When you go to court, you’re sitting on a plastic chair waiting to go in and no one cares.” There was a lot that we wanted to change, but even then, they had to write an email really asking [Suzie Miller] if we could. I think we’re the only country in the world that has been given the right to localize it and change specific things, because everyone has done it in different languages, but they’ve done it in the context of the play. So even in China, they perform it as if it’s Liverpool or whatever, but in Chinese. They do it in their language but they haven’t changed the play and we’ve changed where its set. We tried to give it a piece of everything, she goes to UCT, so then Cape Town feels involved but then she’s now moved to Joburg, which is my story. I’m from KZN but I live in Joburg. And then with the accent, you find like a lot of people from KZN recognising it. I think I get some confused looks from some Capetonians, but then they finally get into it and feel who she is. It’s almost like I’m representing a piece of everyone a little bit, which is what we kind of wanted to do. It is a long show, but I do think it’s because we’ve taken moments to let the audience breathe.

I’m emotional today. I have never gotten my flowers in anything, and I got so many flowers on opening night. I just sat in my bedroom and cried because I feel like I’ve done works that are overlooked. And that’s how it is sometimes, and you just keep moving and you keep your head down. But then I realised that when people pay too much attention to me, that makes me uncomfortable as well. So I’m like, “What is it that I’m searching for?” And I’ve had to have this chat with myself and it’s the purpose and the assignment to story like, what does it mean? I’ve had people come up to me and tell me, “You’re telling my story. It was mine,” and I look at them in that moment and I feel so strong in that moment. But when I go home I’m just me. Tessa is the strong one. Tessa is the one that everyone is looking at and thinking, “Wow she’s so strong.” I go home to me, and I sit with that and I think, “Can I do it again?” Every day I ask myself that. I have never reconciled it in my mind that I’ll be able to do it again. My stage managers is like, “I’ve never met an actress like you, honestly.” I come in four hours before so I can walk the show by myself, with my words, and do every single movement, do everything and be like, “Okay now I have proof that I can do it. So I’ll do it.” I just want to prove once a day that I can do it and then I’ll do it at night.

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Wow. I feel like what it’s done is it’s given me something to grasp onto that is an embodiment of the nurturer and the warrior as one. It’s fleshed me out in ways that I never expected it to. I have an empathy and a sympathy for everything and everyone more than I think I would. I also feel, and I’ve been given this a lot, people often say I’m very giving. If I am holding other actors, even if I’m off camera, if my character cried on camera, I’m crying off camera, because you also need to respond to what that meant in that moment. I will stand in. People will be like, “I can do it to a tennis ball. It’s fine.” And I’m like, “But I’m here.” I think it’s that thing of being able to hold so much. It fleshes you out in ways where you realize that things are bigger than you, and also, that they are a part of you in so many different ways. It also makes me think of every single person as being an extension of me, so be it to say. But it does feel that way because I look at my son, he’s 15 now. I look at him, I had him when I was 21. I look at him and he’s this man. And even in this play, I wonder what that means. I ask him often, “Do you know what it means? Do you know what it means to be a man? Do you know what it means for a woman to experience you? What do you know?” He watched something that I was in where my character got hurt a lot, but he loves Action and his visceral responds to that was heartbreaking because in the beginning he was like, “Go, mom, Kick ass!” And then he got to a point where my husband said he just shrunk a bit. Because as everyone sees you as “Jessica Brok,” he sees his mom. So, I was like, “Okay, he’ll watch the Jodie Comer version and he won’t watch this version.” Simply because my mum even said it was so painful to watch because it was like, “It’s Tessa, no it’s Danica, no, it’s Tessa.” And as people who know you and know your journey and your story, it’s hard. I think it’s informed that something is bigger than me. Something’s always bigger than than me. And he is, he’s bigger than me for this moment. What am I saying to him? What am I holding for him in this moment in my art, in the way that I show up in the world. And how he has watched that; every failure, every “No,” every opportunity, every hard thing, coming home with bruises all over my body after shooting an Action film for 14 hours, six days a week. And him just being like, “I’m gonna make you a couple of tea. and I’m gonna sit by you silence.” I look at moments like that, and I’m like it’s always bigger than me. The moments exists beyond the moment, I think it is. The moment I think it’s big and massive and I’m never going to walk out of this moment again, I get home to my couch with my son and a cup of tea and the world keeps spinning. I think that’s how it’s informed my career. Nothing feels so detrimental anymore. Nothing feels like it can be taken because I have I have so much just there anchoring me down beyond that moment of something feeling insurmountable.

Where do I begin? I have so many peers who I am inspired by. I love Faniswa Yisa, Altovise Lawrence, Kim Engelbrecht, Lorcia Cooper, Kim Cloete, Jennifer Steyn, Dorothy Ann Gould, Camilla Waldman, Tholo Dlamini, Minenhle Sikhosana Pheta, Mpume Mthombeni, Charmaine Weir Smith, Julie-Anne McDowell Hergarty, Thuso Mbedu, Mamarumo Marokane.


Prima Facie runs at the Market Theatre until 4 October 2026. Tickets can be booked via Webtickets.

Special thanks to Christine Skinner.

Photos taken by Candice van Litsenborgh at the Baxter Theatre on 19 August 2026.

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A Conversation with Prue Leith

Prue Leith has made a name for herself internationally as a chef, restaurateur, author and entrepreneur. She founded the Prue Leith Chefs Academy in Centurion, which has trained many of South Africa’s top chefs. Internationally, she is well known for her role as a judge on The Great British Bake Off. She has published 14 cookbooks, a memoir, Relish and eight novels. Prue Leith’s career has included her own restaurants, catering and cookery school businesses. Prue has had a deep involvement with education and the arts: she chaired the first of the companies charged with turning around failing state schools and was Chair of the School Food Trust, responsible for the improvement of school food and food education. She started and led the campaign for contemporary sculpture to be exhibited on the Fourth Plinth in Trafalgar Square. She has been active in many charities and is the Chancellor of Queen Margaret University. She is an advisor for the Government’s Hospital Food Review. Among her awards she has a CBE, 12 honorary degrees or fellowships from UK universities, the Veuve Clicquot Businesswoman of the year, and her restaurant, Leith’s, won a Michelin star. Prue’s latest cookbook The Vegetarian Kitchen, which she wrote with her niece Peta Leith, will be released in March 2020.

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A Conversation with Lee-Ann van Rooi

Lee-Ann van Rooi is an actor, educator, producer and director. This year marks Lee-Ann’s silver jubilee in the South African professional entertainment industry. With numerous awards, nominations and credits stretching over the various mediums of Film, TV, Stage and Radio, both locally and internationally, this UCT graduate’s interests and skills are wide-ranging, innovative and resourceful. A keen storyteller, puppeteer, teacher, mentor, writer, producer and director, she is particularly interested in growing and creatively educating audiences and the entertainment industry in a responsible and fair way. Lee-Ann has recently been nominated for two awards at this year’s upcoming  Fiëstas Awards. She is nominated as Best Actress for her work in Ingrid Winterbach’s Ons is almal Freaks Hier and for Best Supporting Actress for her work in Chase Rhys’ Kinnes. She is currently gearing up to star as The Duchess of York in Richard III which will begin performances at Maynardville open-air theatre in February.

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A Conversation with Gina Shmukler

Gina Shmukler has been in the entertainment industry since she was six years old. In her career, her theatre work as an actress, director and producer, has garnered ten theatre nominations and four awards across different genres ranging from Mamma Mia and Chess, to Master Class and Silk Ties. In 2013, after completing her Master’s Degree in Drama at the University of Witwatersrand, Gina was the proud recipient of the Dr Sibongile Khumalo Creative Research Award. Her select directorial credits include; The Line, Lost in the Stars, Songs for a New World, The Market Theatre’s Brer Rabbit, Beautiful Creatures, Love: A Musical Revue, The Last Five Years and The Whole Megillah. Having taken a performance hiatus, Gina returned to the stage in 2017 in Mike van Graan’s Helen of Troyeville. At the end of 2018, she returned to her musical theatre roots by stepping into Aunty Merle the Musical, which makes its way to Joburg Theatre following three sold-out engagements in Cape Town.

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A Conversation with Kim Louis

Kim Louis made her professional debut at 17 years old in David Kramer and Taliep Petersen’s musical Poison. She then went on to star in Klop–Klop at the Baxter Theatre which celebrated the 10-year partnership between the two writer/composers. Following that, Kim reunited with David Kramer and Taliep Peterson once more when she was cast as Lucy Dixon in their hit musical, Kat and the Kings at the Baxter Theatre. The production received international attention and later went on to be performed on the West End and Broadway. Following her time on Broadway, Kim returned home and focused her attention on starting a family. She continued to feed her theatrical soul by performing at the Milnerton Playhouse Amateur Dramatic Society. Not long after joining, she won best female lead in the musical tribute to Carole King. Today, she is also a council member on the board of the Nelson Mandela Museum in Mthatha and recently launched Centre Stage Vocal & Performance Coaching. After a 20 year hiatus, Kim is back on the professional stage starring as Dinah in David Kramer’s brand new musical, Langarm, which runs at the Fugard Theatre.

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A Conversation with Marisa Steenkamp

Marisa Steenkamp is the Deputy Stage Production Manager at the Baxter Theatre, a position she has held since 2012. With her work ever-changing and evolving, she has worked as a stage manager, assistant stage manager, technician and costume designer. Her work has seen her tour with productions to various countries across the globe including Sweden, Germany, Columbia, France and England. She created the costume design for The Fall and facilitated and styled costumes for various productions including #JustMen, Fisher’s of Hope and Blue/Orange. Most recently, she has worked on productions such as Remembering the Lux, Blue/Orange, Marat/Sade, The Fall, Aunty Merle: The Musical and Endgame. Continue reading →

A Conversation with Jenny Stead

Jenny Stead is an actress currently starring as Judy Boone in the South African premiere of the West End and Broadway hit, The Curious Incident of The Dog in the Night-Time. After graduating from the University of Stellenbosch, she won the Vita award for Best New Actress for her performance in Fiona Coyne’s Glass Roots. Jenny won a Fleur du Cap for her performance in Reza de Wet’s Breathing In, followed by a tour through the USA and Europe with the New York Colonnade’s production of the politically charged, Truth In Translation. She was nominated for a Fleur du Cap for Best Actress in A Musical for her portrayal of Janet in The Fugard Theatre’s production of The Rocky Horror Show. Her fourth Fleur du Cap Nomination was for The Visit in 2018. Her film and television credits include The Poseidon Adventure, Starship Troopers 3, Restless, ICE and Blood Drive.  Continue reading →

A Conversation with Nicolette Moses

Nicolette Moses is the Associate Producer and Planning Manager for the Baxter Theatre, a position she has held since 2010. She is a trained classical ballet and contemporary dancer who graduated from the UCT School of Dance. Following a sojourn abroad, Nicolette joined the Jazzart Dance Theatre, which she managed before joining CAPAB as head of the Audience Development department. In the transition from CAPAB to Artscape, Nicolette worked as Project Manager and then Artistic Manager until 2001. During her time at Artscape, she also worked extensively with the Nederlands Dance Theater. She was appointed as Project Manager at the Baxter Theatre Centre in 2003, and shortly thereafter started heading up the annual Baxter Dance Festival. Now in its 14th year, we sat down with Nicolette to chat about this year’s festival.

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A Conversation with Karen Meiring

Karen Meiring is the Director of M-Net kykNET channels, a position she’s held since 2013. She joined M-Net in 2009 as the head of Afrikaans channels and brought an extensive knowledge of the South African entertainment industry to her position. She has cemented kykNET as the leading producer of Afrikaans film and television content and ushered in successful projects under kykNET such as the Fiëstas, Ghoemas and the Silwerskerm Film Festival. She has also been honoured with numerous awards for her contribution to the arts and entertainment landscape in South Africa. Karen also founded the first ever Afrikaans Arts festival, the KKNK, and was later appointed as the CEO of the festival. She is also one of the founding memebers of Cutt Glas, an internationally renowned Afrikaans a cappella band. We sat down to chat with her during this year’s Silwerskerm Film Festival. Continue reading →

A Conversation with Antoinette Kellermann

In a career spanning 40 years, Antoinette Kellermann has established herself as a doyenne of South African theatre, winning numerous awards for her work on radio, television and on stage. In 2008 she was honoured by the South African Academy for Science and Arts for her contribution to South African theatre. In 2010, she received several awards for her one-woman show As die Broek Pas, which she also performed in English as Man to Man. Select recent credits include Die Melktrein stop nie meer hier nee, Asem, Willem Anker’s Samsa-masjien and Hierdie Lewe by Karel Schoeman which awarded her a Kanna Award for Best Actress. She is currently starring as ‘Nell’ in the all-star cast of Samuel Beckett’s Endgame at the Baxter Theatre.  Continue reading →